I have been investing now for 5-6 years. The trouble that I had was two-fold. I did not have the basics or the knowledge of how to determine which company to be flowing money into. And second, I did not know when it was time to get out.
So, I was searching for tesla content and I came across Jeremy’s videos. After watching several videos, I knew this guy is the real deal. He was very knowledgeable. I am glad I took the steps to invest seriously and joined Jeremy’s team. It is amazing to be in a group of like-minded people and share info.
So the three. All right, everyone. Another member of Germany’s financial education private group here for Jon Karl. How are you doing? I’m doing great. How about you? Not too bad. Not too bad. We just found out. We’re in the same country, so it’s pretty cool for me indeed.
Only a couple hours away. Exactly you know, why don’t to tell the viewers a little bit about yourself and how did your journey start in the market. And then how did you find out about the mistake that Jeremy himself? Yeah, so I’ve been investing now for probably about five to six years. Rate of returns have been so so anywhere between seven to maybe on a really good year, 15% returns.
But the trouble that I had was twofold. One is I was always doubting myself on what stocks. I should get into. I didn’t I didn’t necessarily have the basics or the knowledge or understanding of how to determine which companies I should be flowing money into. And secondly, when I did get into companies,
I wasn’t necessarily sure when it was the best time to get out. So I didn’t know if a company was overinflated. I didn’t know if there was still room to grow or whatnot. So actually, I was contemplating I think it was I want to say 2017. I was contemplating getting into Tesla’s stock. And I was searching for some like minded people on YouTube, searching for some Tesla content.
And that’s where I came about Jeremy’s videos. Jeremy had at the time had quite a few videos on Tesla out. And I just started watching one of the video, two videos, three videos. And next thing I knew, it was probably two, 3:00 in the morning.
And I had gone through numerous Tesla videos of Jeremy’s. And I said, this guy, this guy is the real deal. You know, he knows. I mean, he talks. He’s not I mean, a lot of people at the time weren’t sure. Right there were both sides of the story.
Tesla going to make it as Tesla going to fail. All right. But, yeah, he didn’t just talk hype about the stock. He he talked analytically about the stock. He talked about where it was going. He brought up other people, people in the industry who like Cathy would, you know, and what her opinion is and what he thought of her opinion and what research are invest was doing and what research he had done.
So he was correlating his research to other big investors or other big investment firms. So you saw that he did a lot of research and you saw that he was trying to give premium quality content to people to make sure that we understood that he was doing this for the right reasons, because oftentimes there’s a lot of people on YouTube that don’t do research or just type stocks.
And, you know, for young investors, they’ll just jump on the train. Right but for people who’ve been in the market for a few years, they know you can get burtis if you’re potentially being misguided by people. Yeah, and it’s funny because we’re just talking before we started this, we were just talking, you and I, about like the hype that’s been going on right now.
And in the market, you know, just so many like trading going on, so much dangerous stuff where it’s like it’s going to like a Casino or something. It’s definitely not doable long term. It’s fun to just, like, look at maybe be a part of a small portion of it. But it’s definitely not something that can be maintained long term because, you know, oftentimes we see a lot of people get hurt doing that.
And it’s not something nice. And you want obviously, especially if it’s like finance is so close to people’s like families and things like. Sure other than. So what I wanted to maybe I know you mentioned that you had struggled with when to enter a stock almost and went to aggregate, which are pretty much the focal points of investing.
I guess you would say, what like what resonated other than you know, I know you mentioned you touched on it a little bit, but is there something specific that resonated with you when you watched him and you said, hey, he might be able to teach me this stuff? Exactly what I’m looking for. You might be able to teach it. Yeah so, I mean,
I’ve probably gotten at this point that probably gotten to about 25% of Jeremy’s courses. So that’s definitely helped a bit. I mean, understanding how to read K and 10 q reports, obviously super helpful. I mean, I don’t come from an accounting or a business background. So for me, that was super helpful and super insightful.
The other thing that I would say helps tremendously is the discord. So I mean, you have I don’t know how many people in there. I’m probably guessing over 2000 people. And a lot of people that I feel like I have tons of knowledge and tons of experience. And and the thing that surprised me is that everyone is so willing to help, you know.
And I mean, don’t get me wrong, the courses are super helpful in understanding the technicals are super helpful. But when you can bounce questions or ideas amongst people in the team who probably have. More knowledge than I do, in fact, ’10 folds of knowledge, more than I do, it reassures you, right?
So let’s say you’re thinking of getting into something. You could bounce it around in the team. Who got in? What prices did they get in that if you’re doing analytical work yourself, you get that set off members of the team and get their feedback almost instantly. I mean, it’s almost I’d say sometimes it’s almost even overwhelming because there’s so much going on in there.
And there’s so many smart people. And so much good content that if you’re not looking at it for a day or two, you’re trying to catch up with to over like 200 messages and stuff. But I think I’d say probably 50% of the takeaway I got is from the coarsest and probably maybe even 50% to 60% actually is just in the discourse, just being able to talk to other like minded people.
You could go in the Tesla chat and you could go in the planet chat. You can go on whatever you like. And you can essentially, hey, I’m thinking of this, or I’m thinking of getting in on this, or I’m thinking of doing that. And people bounce back. What they’re doing what they’ve experienced, what they’re facing and sharing ideas.
For me, that’s it’s key. You know, if you see if you see people getting in and you’re thinking of getting in and you think the same way. And you see the same fundamentals, then you do know that you’re probably on the right track.
Yeah, I think you hit it on the head pretty good like that, the course itself is definitely for people that like, you know, you want to learn the fundamentals and basics, obviously, and that’s without doubt you won’t be able to understand people that are talking to you about a certain style or way.
But I think the group itself, like you said, it’s like, you know, it’s filled with six, seven figure investors that not only have money in the market, but they have skin in the game. They have time in the market. They’ve been through this financial crisis. They’ve been through crashes.
They’ve been through it all. And it’s funny, because you put a little thesis you have on a stock and you feel like you want to buy it or whatever it is. And, you know, you get like five, six, seven experienced individuals coming in and either breaking it apart and completely putting your thesis, you a little bit, and then maybe telling you, you know, fix it up, like go, go research.
Better find this. And they give you hints and they give you research or. They kind of put you in a way where they say you have right to expand on it, and that’s honestly, I feel like for me has been probably the biggest take away as much as you. And of course, has been great as well. But OK, can I ask you, let’s say about.
The course itself, if we just focus on the course, would you say that this is for anyone? Is there a specific individual that you think would benefit or benefit or would it be? It’s kind of like anybody can actually benefit from this. I think I mean, personally.
I think anybody could benefit from it. My my personal opinion is, is if you have very little to no knowledge, like a novice to intermediate investor would definitely benefit the most from the courses. Right just because I mean, if you have little to no financial background or financial exposure, there’s so much good content in there that I wouldn’t normally have access to.
Right or you’re trying to search the web for it may be or you’re trying to reach out to one of your buddies that studied finance or studied accounting or to try and get that information. And then you’re probably reading through tons of books and hours of research and who knows if you’ll even find all the content that he provides.
So so definitely for somebody like me, that that doesn’t have a business background that doesn’t necessarily know the fundamentals of it or didn’t know the fundamentals of investing before starting. I think it’s a no brainer that there’s a wealth of out there. Yeah, I totally agree, to be honest, like I came from a financial background, I came from an accounting background.
And I still found. An incredible amount of knowledge that I had that I gained from it, so, you know, if I were able to find knowledge coming out of that, it’s only a testament to someone else coming in with no background and no knowledge of the market, how much they find, because obviously, you know, I’m starting from a higher tela standpoint, but somebody is coming lower.
They just have so much to learn. And it’s nice because when you’re first searching on the internet stuff, it’s kind of it can be overwhelming at the same time as there’s too much different points of views that could be right, could be wrong. And you’re just trying to digest everything. And the brain gets a little bit overwhelmed and doesn’t know what’s right. And what’s wrong.
And eventually it could potentially lead to bad things, which obviously, in this game, the bad decisions lead to, you know, lost money. It’s not just learned lessons, although you learn a lot when you lose money, but you want to avoid that. That’s the thing.
And I think the group, like you said, the course itself, I think it would help someone that’s on a no financial background. But the fact that you’re on an intermediate level or some understanding, I think you can get that extra boost where you can start speaking to six, seven figure people that know what they’re talking about.
And you don’t, let’s say, excuse my language, so stupid or but you’re learning from them. And they want to help you. And and if you’re starting from a point where you have no knowledge, the group can be somewhere that can help a lot before getting into the questions, just because you’re speaking to people and you’re exposing yourself to lingo and you can be open about the fact that you’re new. And a lot of people have been helpful.
I mean, I think a number through a couple of people inside the group and, you know, vice versa. I’ve been mentored by people as well. And that’s great to know, you know, for someone that’s. For someone, that is all, let’s school with you, actually. So you said your radar returns were probably like 15, maybe 20 or 10 to 15.
I think that was the exact figure around before entering. Yeah, prior to joining the group. I mean, in probably some of my worst years, it was hovering around 7% And in some of my best theories it was hovering, let’s say, around 13% to 15% I mean, which isn’t bad.
Right? but I mean, it wasn’t consistent. And and that’s why I felt that I would greatly benefit from joining the team. Yeah seven to 13 is usually like it’s nothing. It’s nothing to be mad about. But it’s also it’s beautiful to have that all the time.
Obviously, compound interest will work in your favor. But, you know, if you really wanted to kind of obviously probably wanted to, especially earlier in your career or something, you’d want a little bit higher returns. And how did that change, let’s say, when you since you’ve gotten in, how is that percentage kind of ballpark being it?
How is that changed for you? Yeah, I’ve been I joined the private stock market team, Jeremy’s private team, I think it was the end of July, if I recall correctly. So July 20, 20. And since I joined the returns, I’ve been, I mean, phenomenal. And I think the end of the year, I was at about 108% And then when I contacted, I think it was coach Cole, that I was at about 112% rate of return from when I started in from when I started in July.
2020 So that’s I mean, the growth of the growth is almost 10-fold. So, so Yeah it’s, it’s, it’s night and day. I mean. Yeah twenty, 2020 has been a bit of a special year. Right like that. In fact, the start of 2020 and all this. I’ll call it Ronnie ruina which Jeremy likes to call. It was really tough man like Jan fab. I was doing pretty well. And then obviously March everything crumbled 30 some odd and that at that moment, I was I was contemplating joining Jeremy’s private stock market group in December 20 ’19.
And I just I just kept putting it off. Right I was like, I’m busy at work. I don’t even know if I’m going to have the time to contribute, to learn that I just spending money and then I’m not going to take advantage of the training or the discord.
So I put it off. And then March happened. And then I became. Worried about where my money was, right, I’m like, I just I just took a 20 some odd 30 some odd hit. And I just felt even less confidence. Right, so it was almost like. So then I started getting back into the videos. I started watching Jeremy again.
And and then I told myself, I said, hey, listen, you know, if I’m going to recover what I lost, I need to make sure that I understand the fundamentals because I like I said, I don’t have that training or I don’t have that exposure. And then, b, I want to have that confidence of being able to talk to other people in the team and bounce ideas off them and say, hey, you know, I’m looking at buying this.
And there’s several other members in the group buying it for the same reasons, then, you know, and we must all I mean, we can’t all be I mean, maybe we could, but the probability of 50 PBB versus me being wrong alone is more comforting, if you could understand what the message is. So that’s it.
Like I said, not only did I learn and but it also allowed me to build confidence by seeing that others in the team had the same thought process, analytical process, and also were buying into based on the same ideas and practice that I was buying in on. So it’s funny because you mentioned that, like, you finally took initiative when you had a rude awakening.
Yeah, that’s usually when people kind of, you know, say, let me fix what my problems are. And it’s good to before you hit something of like a shaky grounds or like, you know, the crash happened. And it’s nice to catch it before it happens, because then you can not only ride the wave positively, even when things are going down, because then you have the fundamentals and you have had it. All right.
But you don’t suffer the financial loss as well. And in certain situations where you. Otherwise, you would if you were alone, I think unfortunately, it’s a bit human nature. Right like, we always try to make changes when drastic measures are required, you know? So I mean, I mean, fortunately, I wasn’t investing money that I didn’t have.
Let’s say I know Jeremy talks about it in his videos, and even in the course, you know, be very careful when you’re investing with margin. So you can imagine somebody that may have been investing with margin and just before March. And then, you know, so. So it gives chills talking about it, to be honest, because, you know, just having your own money go down like that would be a gut punch in its own. And adding margin to that would be just something you.
And some people think 70% on that money. I can’t even imagine. So yeah, like I said, it was it definitely helped. And I’m appreciative of I mean, I’m glad that I took the steps to realize, hey, you know, like if I want to take investing seriously, and I want to start investing more. And I want to be able to get through tough times like this, you know, having knowledge, having a support network and people that you can speak to, like minded people that you can speak to, this is phenomenal.
Yeah, the experience is invaluable. Like it’s unexplainable that experience that you can gain from others that have been somewhere. It’s just something else. And especially especially with the market, like we’ve said it, I think we’re beating a dead horse here. What we’re saying, like, you don’t want to lose money to learn.
That’s not the point. If you want to lose money, if you want to go and invest in yourself or investing and learning, that’s a completely different because it’s like picking a stock and holding it for a long period of time because you’re going to reap the benefits later on. But if you’re going to go and do trial and error with actual life savings, that’s just something that like nobody would want it.
And I’m hoping that everybody can be reactive rather than proactive. Whether you want to do the research on your own or whether we want to join the private group, it all leads to the same thing. As you you want to invest in yourself first before you go and invest your money outwards, because that’s the way you avoid all the hurt.
Let me transition like one maybe like one or two last questions here. Sure I’m assuming now after you look after you’re now in this not only the conference, because the conference. I keep on getting it over and over from people. It’s like the confidence that I’ve gotten since I joined the confidence of going. It’s just creepy enough finding that it’s like a trend between people, the confidence that they get.
I’m assuming now, along with that confidence, you have a systematic way of picking a stock, right? It’s like not just, you know, you find one and you were hopping on the train, but like now you’re actually having a fundamental process where, you know, you have to read the 10 keys in a certain way, read the 10 cues in a certain way, look at certain ratios, metrics, and, you know, you can go on and on.
The list. There’s so many that Jeremy speaks about, and I’m assuming that you have that now. And maybe you can touch on that. Yeah so, I mean, the first thing I do. So I’ll tell you how I like to invest. So I try. So personally, the way I like to invest is I like to look, I like to be forward looking.
So I’m the type of person that likes to invest in companies that are trying to change the world today. Right, so I like to give you an idea. Let’s say I’m investing in the EV space, investing in the energy space, let’s say investing in genomics, just to give some examples.
So then what I’ll do is I’ll start researching companies in that space based on ideas of discord, based on the ideas of YouTube, based on the ideas of CNBC, whatever it may be. Right I’m just looking for companies. And then from there, that’s where I start to get analytical.
Right, so like you said earlier, I’ll look at the 10 ks, look at the quarter, at the 10 qs, at the quarterly reports. I’m looking for cash flow, I’m looking for debt. And then obviously, I’m looking for. Right, the total addressable market, right, because if you’re investing in companies of the future, like you shouldn’t be looking at p, right?
That’s if you keep looking at that’s, I guess, the trouble. I have when I have discussions or debates with some of my friends. Right they’re looking at issues, and they’re saying these companies are overly inflated. And I tell them that a lot of people are investing in these companies because they recognize that they have. So much growth in the future.
And if you can see that, then you look past that P/E ratio. Right, because that’s what a lot of the people I used to communicate with on a daily basis. That’s how they look at stocks, right? They just look at it, look at the P/E ratio. They look at how much debt they have and they say, OK, it’s overly inflated and there’s too much risk.
And I’m not going to invest. Right, so if I were if I was doing that, I mean, like, I’ll give you an example, which I’m sure a lot of people in Jeremy’s group invest in. I give you an example, like Tesla, right? If you have if you look at Tesla, they’ve always been overly weighted.
Right, so you would have never bought them. Right but if you could look past that and see the time, then you start to realize, wow, there’s 2% of 2% of the cars on the road or EVs. Tesla’s five years ahead of everybody in terms of battery technology, in terms of getting to full autonomy.
Once you start putting the dots together, you realize that, yeah, the P/E ratio is probably high for a technology company or for an automaker. But it’s just the time that you got to start realizing, is there an ulcer?
And the other thing that I look at to that that Jeremy likes to point out as well is that I never considered before, which is almost a bit surprising. But who’s leading that company? Right do a bit of research, do a bit of research on the executive team.
You know, who’s the CEO, who’s the cfo? Who’s the ceo? Where did they come from? What’s their background? What’s their history? What did they do at other companies? And then if that makes sense. And you see these companies are being led by intelligent, dedicated, hard working people, it makes all the difference.
I am you know, I understand how glad I am that you mention the fact that there’s so much more than just numerical figures and like a P/E ratio. You know, I know obviously somebody when you don’t know how much you’ll grab one sort of information, you just cling onto it for dear life. It’s so good to know that you have come to the realization that there’s so much more to look at.
It’s more of a mindset that you have to gain. Like the term is not something that’s written in an article or read in a paper. It’s you have to think like he teaches that a lot. And I realize that as well. He teaches that the way to think in the future, if you change that mentality and the way you change it, which he obviously speaks of many, many times, it’ll help you value stocks that are not attractive on a balance sheet or on it foreign income statement or on those races that you speak of.
And and the thing is, when you’re able to do that, you’re able to hop on a lot of stocks that you would have missed out on if you were just basing it off. One certain metric or a group of metrics and, you know, growth stocks on its own or at least of its own.
Like, they’re just they have a different type of metric value system. They have a different type because like you said, Tesla, like, you know, if you’re looking at it from a numerical standpoint, like if anything, I would be shorting the side, you know, but there’s a reason why the opposite is happening. There’s a reason why it’s taking such a big issue because there’s some sort of experience that you need and doing that.
And it’s great that you touched upon it. I feel like a lot of people will benefit from that point. Exactly one last thing before I wrap it up, at least before I give you the last words, I just wanted to know, like if someone were if someone was a dear friend of yours and obviously, you don’t want to push them to do anything that they don’t want to do.
But if they were on the fence and thinking about it, you know, now there’s a lot of YouTubers out there. They’re just throwing things out there left and right. Now You know, obviously, it’s just a hot market. The stock market is just a hot topic in any way. You look at a shape, or form right now, it’s just a hot topic.
If people are on the fence and looking at Jeremy’s content and looking at Jeremy’s private Groupon and they’re saying to themselves, you know, I want to put my money in my portfolio. I don’t want to go and learn. You know, it’s that fear of not having enough people, not putting money in your portfolio, but putting it into education and your education.
What would you say to someone in that position? So I think I’ve spoken about. What you get right, like the courses are good, the way he changes your mindset, right, like he teaches you how to change your mindset and how to think about purchasing. He also I mean, one thing I get from them just in general. And I and I, I get that through the Monday calls, too, and Yeah. Through the Q&As. He doesn’t he doesn’t overstretch himself.
Right like Jeremy knows what he likes to research. Jeremy knows the type of stocks he understands. And he sticks to those markets. Right Yeah. And and I find like you said earlier, there’s, there’s, there’s things you learn through the courses, there’s things you learn through the discord, but there’s also things that you just learn by interacting with Jeremy and members and the private group.
And so there’s a lot of little subtleties that I sort of tell people that, you know, if you’re not if you’re not in the group, you’re going to miss out on these things, you know, so people don’t understand that. I can’t necessarily like you understand because you’re in the group and you’ve been there.
So so your courses are great. Dischord is phenomenal. Like I said, you will change your mindset. He will make you see things differently. This thing. The problem. I find just in general is that people will look to see there’s hundreds of people, if not thousands of people on YouTube that are trying to sell their product or their channel or whatever it may be.
And a lot of people look at price, right? They look they say, OK, this is x a month. And that’s why a month. And a lot of people, I think are somewhat I don’t want to be rude, but are somewhat a bit shortsighted. Right they say, OK, well, you know, $5 is not that much money. Right, so if it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out. I think what you have to understand when you join Jeremy’s team is don’t look at what you’re spending as an expenditure.
Look at it as an investment. And quite frankly, if you do it that way, you don’t look back right. Like I mean, you make the money back in your investments, you know, within few months of being in the group. Right and then to get the exposure that you get to people that have a wealth of knowledge. And also to get that interaction with Jeremy, I mean, that’s a no brainer.
Like we were discussing a bit earlier when before we started this recording, you know, I was even asking you how you sign up for life, right? Because even if you understand what’s in the courses, just being involved in the discord and having to 2000 plus people that you can bounce ideas off of that have been hand picked, I’ll call it.
Right, because you’ve been interviewed and you’ve been selected to be part of the team. So you know that everybody you’re discussing with has a certain understanding of the market, a certain experience, a certain exposure. And and that alone is probably worth the membership fee in itself. I honestly, like I honestly couldn’t have put it into better words myself.
I like the way, you know, the price to investment because truly, it is an investment. It’s not like it’s not something you because you’re buying. It’s something to it’s a vehicle for you to. Increase the network over time. And consistently make your life better than it was before.
And I think you honestly, you nailed it like you put there, you put the nail in the coffin there. And any sort of doubt that I had kind of where to question. But that was it is an investment and it’s a mindset shift. And it’s everything that you just mentioned. And I feel like you were very insightful and helpful for everybody that’s going to do this.
I feel like they’ll hopefully they can take the points that you pointed out as being kind of the most important. And and the value those first before they value anything else that they usually value. With with that being said, you know, it’s probably one of my longest combos that we’ve had here. It’s been pretty it’s been pretty cool. Speaking with you.
Thank you so much for your time. I know you’re busy. I don’t want to take up too much of your time, but it was very nice speaking to you. It’s a pleasure. Appreciate it. Take care.