Gabriel Paulsen

I started investing about 13, 14 months ago. I did it in high school with a simulator, the stock market game, so I started on that. It wasn’t until last year I actually put my own money in.

I started with about $500 in my first month as an investor, that just like a few companies. And then brought that up to about $1,000 after I got comfortable and then once COVID hit my portfolio pretty much plummeted. But I was thinking that if I sell it, then I actually lose it, so I just held on to everything and bought more.

I invested all my stimulus money and I got about 10,000. So I invested all that and then I turned that roughly 9k to 10k into about 20 over the course of the year.

I like that Jeremy gives a full thesis on it, why he likes it, and that he does 20 to 30-minute videos as opposed to 3 to five-minute videos of just “buy the stock now”.

All right, we have a follower of the financial education channel, jebril, how are you doing? Good that’s good to hear. Man how you tell us a little bit about yourself, man. How did you start off investing?

How did you even get it? You know, it’s pretty cool to, first of all, to get into the market alone. A lot of people are scared of it. So I started investing about. 13, 14 months ago, I did it in high school with a simulator, the stock market game, so I started on that actually, and then it wasn’t until last year I actually put my own money in.

I started with about $500. For like my first month investor, that just like a few companies. And then brought that up to about $1,000 after I got comfortable and then once COVID hit my portfolio pretty much plummeted. But I was like, if I sell it, then I actually lose it, so I just held on to everything, bought more.

I invested all my stimulus money and I got about 10,000 on employment that I invested. So I invested all that and then I turned that roughly nine to 10,000 into about 20 over the course of the year.

And you’re sitting at 20 right now? 19,500 That’s that’s a good 100% gain. That’s like a nice it’s all a good 100% gain. That’s pretty cool. As you. So how is your how is your processing saying, like, you know, investing in these stocks or are you just doing it blindly where you are.

I mean, I started blindly, in all honesty, kind of blindly like the few companies I got into mostly tech. The first company I invested in was sunrun. That went from I think my average cost is like $9. And that went all the way up to 100.

Familiar with the company or not, I have heard of it, I’m not too familiar, I haven’t done fully research on a big solar company. Yeah, Yeah. No, I yeah, I heard that one. It’s pretty cool. I have you. So have you gotten inspiration from kind of the YouTube channel that invested in stocks that. Oh Yeah.

I wouldn’t say probably 20% to 30% of the stocks I hold in my portfolio are like ones that Jeremy’s recommended. Yeah, and a good portion of my other stocks have come from kind of actually delving into companies like with his advice, kind of like looking at certain sectors or like similar companies he’s invested in. That’s that’s pretty that’s pretty cool, to be honest.

I was like, how are you? How does what made you think that? Or or think to yourself a Jeremy something that like someone that I can learn from, because it’s very difficult. It’s like there’s so many YouTube was out there.

There’s so many people giving advice. And it’s just like it’s hard sometimes to decipher who to choose for, to follow. I started with a few people. And they seemed very pushy, like they wanted to get me into the stock. And they were a lot of times like Penny stocks. Yeah and they just seem like really passionate about the stock.

But I like the Jeremy gives like a full thesis on it, why he likes it and the 20 to 30 minute video as opposed to 3 to five minute videos of just buy the stock now. No, that’s a good point, honestly, to be honest.

Yeah like in terms of, you know, just having somebody that’s like giving their thought process fully from a to z, how much does that increase your confidence? And obviously you don’t want to go and buy anything that anybody else is buying just for the sake of that, right?

Yeah, I mean, anybody can agree on that, but it’s nice to see someone else diving deep into a company. And then it kind of gives you that, like springboard where let me go do my own research now based off of that.

And see if that does that. Do you have that feeling? You feel like that’s kind of something motivational and gives you a lot of confidence before you start investing in a company? Yeah, and then he also taught me a lot like looking at the PE ratio market caps, as opposed to just this is a good company.

Yeah and are you are you kind of think if you were to grade one from a scale of 1 to 10 before you kind of followed the YouTube channel, what was probably your confidence in the stock market? I know you’ve done it on a paper trading, which is pretty cool.

That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone practice first, which is incredible. That’s that’s a very smart you know, what was your confidence before you kind of got to know the YouTube channel? And so, I mean, I’m pretty like cocky, kind of arrogant.

And I did do well starting off. I noticed that like four out of 5 out of 10 out of 10 in confidence. And I feel like with Jeremy I’m up to seven probably. Yeah and you feel like you feel like it’s dangerous to kind of for people that don’t know what they’re doing yet.

And because you mentioned the word cocky and it’s like it’s funny because I was as well. But it’s funny when the caucus that I was when I knew nothing but one, the more I start to know, the less cocky I become.

Just because I know the market is right about that. Is that’s something that you’ve experienced yourself as well. Yeah, I feel like I spend like I used to be, like I guess Jeremy recommended it and there were a few stock that is kind of put money in, because he recommended it.

Luckily I didn’t lose money on that. But now I still even do my own research, like even after we recommended stock. I’ll go and take a look at news articles related to the company or like their earnings reports.

Yeah, no, that’s definitely something like it’s the thing about it is that it’s scary if you’re going in at it in a cocky standpoint because the market doesn’t really care about you. I don’t know if you’ve heard of that saying it’s like the market doesn’t really care about you, your feelings, who you are.

You’re just a number to the market. And it’s like if you don’t properly do your research, the market can do whatever it wants. And it’s just like you’re going to get caught in the crossfire. What what do you think about that?

I mean, I think of anything that during the last two weeks have pretty much shown us that, you know, it’s funny because you told me about 20 k your portfolio has been down that much, but it just shows that you.

Maybe you’re in quality companies and you’ve done your research in them prior and you even the long term view, rather than just being falling victim to the volatility and panicking, you think you would have panicked if you weren’t surrounded, let’s say, by you, by someone that you know, you’ve learned from?

You think you would have panicked if you were alone? I think I would have had I don’t think I want to completely panic, but he definitely gave me some reassurance. I know like minded like my simulations in the market, like the only time you lose money when you sell. When you’re down.

Yeah so I got to ride it out, see what happens. I threw another $1,000 in when it was down. And then made some more money on that when it came back up. I was down about $3,500 about a week ago, two weeks ago, and now I’m only down about 700.

And, you know, tell me about how you were able to have that conviction and strength and kind of that. Obviously, the confidence to state to stick with it, because, you know, you’re down to $3,500 I mean, you know, maybe it’s not 20 k, but it’s still something that, you know, you say that might help.

Yeah, of course. Like, you start thinking of bad things right. At those moments. Right and it’s like, you know, how were you able to kind of COVID with that? I mean, the thing that helped me the most is when I started investing was. January, late January of last year.

So I feel like that was probably a really good lesson for me, because here I was, I put my $1,000 in the market and now it’s worth $300. And it’s not like it. But I held on to it through my stimulus money back at it, and I mean as AI think it was probably Joline or so that it started to really pick back up now. So glad that I held on to all my stuff.

Like all the stocks that were down, like roku, I managed to pick that one out for like 60 bucks. Now it’s like 400. That’s pretty. Those are those are, first of all, congratulations, no one, you know, like I already mentioned, 100% gain is pretty cool. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully you can get to that. You know what like let me ask you, what is your goal in the next five, seven years?

What do you what do you envision like what do you envision for your portfolio? What do you kind of see yourself being it? !invisible!, well, I get done with my pharmacy degree in two years, and that’ll probably about. $60,000 in debt, and my goal is to hopefully pay that off.

With what I make in the market within the next four or five years, yeah, I’ve heard that a lot. I’ve heard, especially when you’re going to school like I was you know, I graduated not too long ago. And it’s like, you know, the worst thing is just being in debt and having to pay it off.

And if you’re able to kind of find a vehicle like the stock market and properly maneuver it, it’ll just give you that, you know, it’ll give you that confidence and it’ll give you that ability. Any thought to try to pay it off, you know, before you ever imagined could have. Right?

I mean, I, like, kept my return rate as what it is now, not the I mean, that’s being pretty arrogant, but like, I have $90,000 month and three years. Yeah no, that’s I mean, you know, it’s incredible.

I mean, it’s still, it’s still 100% gain and it’s like 100% that you didn’t have before. Now you have and it’s over time and compound interest is only going to work in your favor. And I wanted to ask one of my last question for you is kind of what is your favorite? What is your favorite jeremey advice?

I’m sure there’s a lot of things that he has taught, like the piece, the financials look. What is your favorite out of all that? You can pick one and say that was one that stuck with me the most and helped me the most.

Probably my favorite is you did a video a while ago basically saying, I don’t like just go with the trends, like you see these stocks dropping and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon and just start selling your stuff off.

And I feel like that was like the biggest thing, like I know you’re supposed to hold, but like knowing someone else, like really pushes for especially like me, he’s still confident in the market went down.

That’s why the thing is just like holding strong, like even though you leadership like thinking, yeah, that takes a lot of conviction because for you to hold strong, like it’s one thing to hold strong when you have conviction, it’s another thing to hold strong blindly or blindly.

And sorry, not so because like some people just feel like holding strong, but like if you’re holding on to a bad company, it’s not really holding strong. You’re holding weak, you know. Yeah, I know. It’s cool to know if I could just shows that, you know, you’re doing the work behind the scenes before you get in.

So then when it gets turbulent in the market, you know, you’re holding strong based on your confidence and your ability to say, I’ve done the work beforehand and I’m looking way ahead, not just in the near future, that something that, you know, I salute you for number one, because we’re all at a point kind of playing around and goofing around in the market.

And we quickly realize that you should not be doing that with the market, then you should be OK. I, I want to know before you know, for me, it was nice meeting you, but I wanted to kind of give you the floor if you have any last things that you want to talk about. What’s this got to do with that? I guess, like, where did you, like, start investing? I got you.

Oh, man, that’s actually a good question, to be honest. I’ve never really had it reversed on me, but still smooth. I like that. So it’s funny because I actually started investing a long time ago. I started investing around four or five years ago.

And obviously long relative to me right my age, I’m like 25. 26 now almost. So five years ago I was around 20, but I was basically almost a freshman in high and University and college. So I’m the freshman and I had a couple of bucks on the side.

I was working while I was studying. So I said, you know, let’s use the market. At the time, though, over here in Canada, there was the marijuana boom there. They were legalizing marijuana and me blindly buying into companies that that, you know, hey, they’ll go up.

Right and rightfully so. They did. They did. I turned, I think, at $10,000 into $50,000. So I fedexed my money in a span of a month and a half. Proxima but that’s a nice asterisk cause I give it. Give me a second. You don’t think them. You’ll think so. You know, a month or two passes by.

The thing is, I didn’t realize I was in speculative plays. And it was just my lack of knowledge at the time, I was in very speculative plays and I didn’t I was not looking at the financials, even though I was studying financials, I was in the school.

So, like, how ironic is that? It looks like even when you’re the closest to are you still going to work when you’re misguided? And I kid you not. I lost $50,000 went down to around $8,000. I kid you not in the span of like three weeks.

I have never experienced something like the COVID crash. I’ve already experienced it like a couple of years back, I’ll tell you that. It was so at that point, I started like maybe I got scared from the market for about a year. I can’t lie. And and then I kind of janat year. I got away from the market, did other things continue on my studying?

And I said never again. But and then I kind of know, as I grew and I matured, I said, you know, maybe that’s not the right way to look at it, not never again, because it’s never again. And it’s like, you know, you gambled. Maybe I did something wrong. And I tried to ask myself what I did wrong. What what was it?

That was it that kind of put me in the harm. And, you know, ironically, obviously, I was studying in finance and stuff like that. So I said maybe I was looking into the company’s deep enough, you know, could be.

So I started doing a little more digging. As my studies went on, I started understanding financials a little bit more. And I started to puzzle together the fact that, hey, you know, I am actually I was doing it horribly at the time, so and now I’m learning and it’s like, oh, my god, I should have looked at this.

I should have looked at the balance sheet. I should have looked at their cash position. How much are they burning? The companies I was in, they were burning cash like no tomorrow. And it was only a matter of time before the crash. And it started to hit me like no wonder why they crashed, you know, like they crashed.

And, you know, for me, it was like I didn’t lose too much, although I did lose the gains, which hurts because if you compound that over five years, if I started with that $50,000.05 years ago, you know, compound interest will just take you over and they’ll just make that 50,000.

If you’re in the right positions and you follow the right people, you invest properly that $50,000 over five years can really, really multiply. And so I’m sad about that, but I’m not sad about the lesson I learned is that, you know, you got to take it seriously when you’re investing in the market. Yeah Yeah.

And so, you know, towards the end of my studies, I said, you know, let me die because I started becoming a little bit more free because I was getting the hang of school. I was starting to get better at it. I didn’t have to spend as much time studying. I was getting used to it.

So I said, let me go down some rabbit holes on YouTube because, you know, I always like the videos rather than reading them. So, you know, I go on YouTube and I’m just like searching around. I started watching Kevin a little bit, you know, meet Kevin.

And he was more of a realistic type of person. He was more of the index fund type of guy. He’d have some stocks, but it’ll be very minimal. And behold, you find this other Jeremy guy with his spiky hair. I’m just like, OK, like, what is this?

You know, it’s pretty cool. I watched one of his videos. I watch a second of his videos. This is back in like 2017. And when I watched his videos, he was I think it was one of his videos like I’m 16 and 17 actually. He was like how to read balance sheets and how to read income statements. They’re very old.

Videos like this is Jeremy’s first started know he had that high pitched voice a little bit. I had it all. Everything going on. Yeah and I started watching it. And because I understood finances and he was talking about these financial statements and stuff, and I was like, look, this guy is talking. He’s saying the truth.

And I came from a place of being able to see if he’s actually saying the truth or not. Yeah so I was like, I learned this in my study. Sound like this guy is not talking gibberish then that built by credibility with him a little bit.

I watched him for, like, a good while, like two years, kept on watching him. And then, like, you know, you’d always hear about this private group, the group, private group. And I’m just like, OK, you know, I started paying off school.

My account went down again to like $2,000. But that was because I paid off my school tuition and stuff. So it was like I was playing with literally nothing and, you know, slowly started following his YouTube channel did not get into Tesla, though.

I don’t know how I didn’t do that. No, I’m not saying that. And I was able to, you know, eventually in like a year and a half ago maybe I said, you know, I have some money now. You know, I’ve made money off his pics on YouTube and being able to help me around researching and stuff. Let me triad of a group. And and I did.

And you know, like everything that has gone, all the bad stuff that has happened to me in the market, like I think it now, just because now I know that it’s not something to play around with. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people I really hope that nobody gets into that hole because it’s just it’s a tough one to swallow.

Well, it’s really easy to gamble when you’re up, but once you start to lose, that’s when you learn. And can you imagine going from $10,000 to $50,000 instead of like a month and a half? And you’re just a young 20 year old, like I said. But I’m like, I’m conquering the world. Like I’m 50k my bank account.

Like, I guess what I can do in a couple of years, I’ll frickin’ buy the whole frigging country or something like, you know, like your head was just getting big and big and big. And then all of a sudden you get humbled like a good, you know, good old market doing its thing.

So that’s what came to me. Man, that was, that was basically my story. I know people will see it. I hope people learn from it. I know they’re going to laugh at me a little bit, but I hope they learn from it.

And, you know, since I got back on track, my accounts have been going up my you know, after obviously, like, you know, I started in a group actually when I was still in school. So I didn’t know I was contemplating whether I should do it or not, and I did it when I was in school and it was just part of my learning.

I said, hey, I learned so much more than in the group than I did in my financial school, which which is crazy to think of. Yeah, I’ve learned a lot, but it’s a whole new ballgame when you’re looking at it from a sports perspective. Yeah, and that’s my story. So then how do you get into the private group? Oh, so, yeah, you know.

At the time, it wasn’t that it wasn’t as difficult, but I still had to apply and and I was able to speak to a couple of people within the group on Instagram the time because, you know, he wasn’t he wasn’t as big as he is now because he now that the track record is just compounded.

Like once you have a track record on YouTube that for that much of an account, it’s incredible what people start taking the credibility seriously. So at the time, the qualification was a little bit less rigorous.

It was like, you know, I had to speak with a couple of people inside the group and I had a couple of calls with them. They kind of asked me some good questions and, you know, they wanted to see if I was a serious investor or not.

A lot of people want to come in and do trade and play around. And one thing I’ve realized about Jeremy is that. Over time, what he likes to do is kind of he wants to teach people how to build wealth rather than just a quick buck or two, you know, and it’s, you know, maybe the younger generation maybe won’t see that included in that young, younger generation.

By the way, like I’m not saying it is anybody else like them. I am that those people. But we see it as a little bit of a we want the money now. We want the gratification now. But we don’t visualize like 10 years now from now, if you do it properly and you follow the right process that other very successful people have followed, like Jeremy, like people inside a group like that stuff can really change your life. It’s not.

But, you know, out of all people like you’re going to school, that is not a fun thing, right? You want to get rid of the puzzle, right? So you just want to there. And it just allows people to have that option. And that’s what I found to be so speaking with a couple of people inside the group.

You know, I was I was thankful to be qualified to get in. And and, you know, to be honest, I haven’t looked back. I’m not trying to brag about it or anything. I have a lot of so, you know, I’m enjoying it. I like the people in there. I sure as hell love watching Jeremy vogels, which is pretty cool to watch. So, yeah, that’s my take I.

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