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I started doing freelancing at the age of 16 because I did not attend any university. I found Jeremy’s channel then I first started with how to analyze companies.

I joined the Private group and what he teaches us is to not make the decision based on what he makes, not make the decision of somebody else, but rather make them for your self. He actually tries to teach you how to do the research by yourself. Jeremy helped me understand everything about stocks.

Tell us a little bit about yourself, kind of about your investing journey and how you started investing and maybe how you got and how you found the channel. OK, so I’ll start with just my age. I’m 24 at the moment.

And right out of school. I didn’t go to university, kind of started freelancing from the age of 16 or so. I’m going to take a developer, was a developer and put myself through to the company’s first started at a small startup.

And after that, I started working for corporates and that was 19 or so. I started looking at my first big corporate of about 4,000 people. International ended up flying the world around the world, and that’s not very popular for South Africans.

So then due to that, I had to find some good ways to put my money to work. So obviously I first started getting myself a place. So got that one, paid it off in about a year or so, and then was like, what’s next?

So I looked into more property because that’s the best thing to do. And they got my second property and recently got two more. So those first two I just plots they currently body-building they’ll be finished end of this year and due to all of that kind of saved, I don’t put everything into property.

And to be quite honest, I don’t like managing tenants at this age dealing with people 15 or 20 years older than me. I’m not a big fan of managed tenants and also I’m not a big fan of getting agents to manage to do it, because then you set your distance from the properties.

So it’s challenging. And with people not paying, destroying your property, I just don’t like it. So then first found on rechecks channels kind of the way back and I was like, this is pretty interesting.

Kind of new updated on woodstock’s a couple of years ago, but it was more like a couple dollars. Leave it in there and go. Yeah, OK. Maybe that’s an option. I didn’t quite understand it then dug into it.

But more found. Kevin’s channels on Jeremy’s channel find a few more like people doing stock portfolio reveals and things like that. And so it’s like going into its first started with trying to get understanding of how to analyze companies.

So why should I put my money into something like Microsoft and why not something in Starbucks or Tesla or whatever the case is? How do you choose it? And I have to say that I’m against retirement funds.

So because I understand that industry not the interest itself, but the people behind that industry and how they sell it to you. So they’re only on commission. So regardless of the benefit of benefits for you, they’re going to sell you whatever it takes to get you commission or get them commission.

So most of the companies here, they give a retirement package and I lower to the minimum that I can contribute to get more money out and a way where I have more control about it. So because I don’t want to end up in 40 years time and people go, yeah, your money didn’t grow that much and oops, we didn’t know, or they blame it on the market, they get some kind of excuse.

So I’d rather do it myself. And the worst that can happen in 40 years, I blame myself. So I think that’s it is a bit riskier, but I think it’s, it feels safer. So I think that covers all your questions at the moment.

I have obviously quite a big portion of my net worth in real estate and not being someone who likes to manage properties, I think I’m going to keep it that way for now. And then for the past six months or so, I’ve been aggressively throwing money into the market.

I have a lump sum that I want to get rid of. I don’t want to just dump it into the market. Some dollar cost averaging and it’s not preferred but feels a bit better. And also, as time goes by, I change which stocks are trading. So, you know, that’s been kind of my journey.

I’m not someone that likes the news. I unfortunately work for the largest news companies in Africa. Yes, sir. I don’t use YouTube channels or any news to kind of say, oh, this is the next new thing or that’s the next thing.

Or I should sell or look at the market each day. I look at it and it’s working. It’s doing its thing. And if there goes a dip, so I usually I for my strategy is at specific intervals, I thought I a certain portion. And being South African, I also need to take in the currency exchange into account.

So if I see a dip in there I’ll some brands in there get it into dollars alone and then I’ll use that dollars to when they said nice dip in the market, I’ll throw in a bit more if there’s no dip between the intervals, I’m still throwing money at the interval.

So if it’s every two weeks, I’ll, regardless of what the market does, unstrung in every two weeks, in within the two weeks, if there’s a substantial dip like yesterday in some of the cases. Threw in a bit more.

OK, so that’s and that’s kind of my strategy. That’s right. Yeah, you have a very level headed level, the thinking process. You’re not just a nuisance. You know how it works. You’re not. We have it by the investment retirement funds because how those works.

Knowing how something works will give you a better insight into how to deal with it and whether it’s good for you or not. I want it, you know, like individual stock picking itself. Like a lot of people look at it risky.

It’s not it’s very risky as people look at it. How has kind of I don’t know if you’ve watched channel enough to kind of use it to better enhance your stock picking your research. And I think that’s sort of how has the channel kind of fit into your strategy and helped you around get so so.

I’ll say Jeremy’s channel and I always want to better game because those are the two that are put on side by side. Sometimes it’s Kevin on the TV and Jeremy on the phone. So it helps to get a better understanding of where the outside means, what kind of things are going.

So what is other people doing in the short term? But for long term things all like at the moment I’m looking into Starbucks, so I’ll print out the income statement and the financial reports, the quarterly reports, maybe get some articles about them, some news, some big headlines, even if it was a couple of years ago just to see how has that impacted it.

And this morning was actually one of those mornings we went to a coffee shop, took my pack of papers and went through it so you could see it, checking some numbers, do some math. And I kind of try and paint the picture for myself.

I’ll never use someone doing a video on it and say, I think the Starbucks is undervalued, so therefore you should buy it. Or I look at some kind of investing platform and says, oh, the analysts are saying you should buy.

If if I can get to myself to say I think it’s a good buy a lot and my time line, it’s 10 years at least, I can’t really withdraw the money because first of all, it’s in the stock market and second of all, it’s offshore.

So it’s not that easy. And therefore, whatever the market does, it doesn’t really affect me because it’s not like if it drops 30 percent, I’m going to withdraw my money. It’s I can’t it’s not that simple.

That was kind of what have you learned the most out of the channel? Out of just watching Jeremy’s videos? I know. I know you’re very independent picking your stocks, which is exactly what he actually preaches himself.

What have you learned from his channel? What have you learned from how he researches for you to be able to go and do that, huh? I would say analyzing the news or just reiterating the news. So what’s happening?

Because I’m not so clear up with the us, so I’m not sure how certain news would impact the US. And then just referring back to gentlemens channels, it goes kind of explaining that, !invisible!, just getting a better understanding and then also giving me leads to things that I can go look up.

So says the interest rates are dropping or the 10 year treasury yield bonds or the yield is increasing. What does that mean for the US economy? I mean, how can I kind of wrap my head around it? Because we have different things here in South Africa that happens, that our stock market goes up by 10% because of some corruption or fraud that has been done by the government.

So and the magnitude of stettinius in South Africa. But I don’t know at all with the US and then we’ll see the housing market in the US. I’m not familiar with it at all, the kind of ways that you guys set up mortgage mortgages.

So we have a different thing here. And it kind of similar idea, but certain other also watching this channel getting that kind of slippered. That’s really cool. I like I like the fact that you’re to have that long term Warren Buffett type mindset where it’s just kind of like you’re putting the money in their accounts and it’s just you’re not looking to have it anytime soon.

That’s what most people fall in the trap where they buy stocks, but they need the money in the next whatever. And then it puts them at a point where they’re not actually utilizing the market to its advantage in the short time span on it.

That’s when you kind of hurt yourself. I think what also helps is with general is this, as many people say, scammers don’t want to put them in that category. But people that would say just do this and you’ll get your stock, the Bitcoin thing going on.

I got some bitcoins or some say very little, not even one. But for me, that is yes, it can make you a lot of money. And I take my hats off to the people that are willing to take that risk. I say, look, my money doubled in the last two months or so and that can happen.

And it’s definitely something if you’re willing to take the risk. And that’s the important point. Many people are not willing to take the risk and they don’t have the mindset of this money. If it’s 0 dollars, come back.

I should be perfectly fine with in my case, it’s not up. I actually putting my money, then going, this should grow. This this is for the next or this is something for 10 years. And if it dips, it just means that I’m going to get more or I’m going to pay less and get more now.

And I actually wanted to do because my returns only need to be in the next 10 years. So if I can get the 30% drop that everyone is talking about, the market’s going to crash in the housing market.
I’m actually wanting that because then I can take my lump sum and just dump it in a way where someone was looking short term. They can’t afford the market to crash because I kind of need that money in the way that the market is up or down.

They need it. That’s perfect, that’s a perfect perspective to look at because, yeah, that’s really what it is you want it to do realistically, you would want if you’re looking at it from a 10 year horizon or six, seven year horizon plus, that’s when you’re like, I actually wanted to jump in the next year.

I love that because I can buy, like, 30% discount. Why wouldn’t you want to buy something that you were already at a much better discount? And a lot of people need to switch their mentality to that.

And I think if they do like the success, we’ll just follow that strategy much more than any other, because any other that you’re just going to feel trapped in the emotions, to the volatility, to the short term policy changes like rates and like and things of that sort that’s going to hurt.

And a lot of people and it’s sad because not a lot of people seeing to know right now, it seems all euphoric and beautiful and more freakish, just playing up and running rainbows every there. But if you make profits in 20, if you made a profit in 2020 you shouldn’t invest yourself on the back. It wasn’t that difficult.

But but what I want to add to your previous question is, I think this or the people that kind of lose money and then badmouth the stock market, those are people that maybe have a couple dollars and they want to make they want to double it, which is not the case.

Rather, spend that on maybe sucking it inside or getting better transport, more reliable transport to be on time for your clients and then get a better reputation, which in a sense brings you more money in the long term.

So I think any people that have I would say, let’s say $50,000 I would say maybe that’s a point where you can start say, if you got a spare 50 thousand, maybe you can start looking at it and say, I can look into the stock market to start investing, because if you have less than that or other real estate, do something else, you can get them much better.

But if you’re looking at long term, you say, OK, I’m going to take a couple of grand, put it away every month, then you’re not going to fall into the trap. But it’s the people that have to have a lump sum from, I don’t know, the one that they want some competition.

I think they got some cash out from something. And it’s $5,000. $10,000 And they want to take all of this and put it into Tesla and then Tesla drops. So, yeah, and then it’s also there’s well, many of them don’t understand the tax laws, they go kind of on a double my money and then get the money back.

So I look at it. I really don’t want to double my money in the short term because that’s a lot of taxes. Yeah, it’s true. It’s yeah, there’s a lot that goes into it. And a lot of people are just not knowledgeable yet to it.

And that’s the sad thing about it. And if you don’t know something about it, if you don’t know enough, you don’t know what something you really should not be throwing your money into it. That’s the thing about it.

And that’s what we were hoping, that the channel kind of does like Jeremy’s channel. I know he preaches himself. He’s the first one to preach inside of the private group that please don’t make decisions off what I make, don’t make decisions off somebody else, make them for yourself and what he tries to teach us.

He actually tries to teach you how to research yourself. That’s the whole point of it, is to figure out what’s a good deal. Because, you know, he may not tell you the stock is good, but he’ll tell you what makes a stock a deal.

And that’s he has seen that over 13, 14 years in the market. And he has seen a trend. He has seen something that works. Yes he has seen what doesn’t work. And he’s fallen to some trucks himself. He’s he’s been pretty open about intransparent.

So and he preaches that a do it yourself, like figure out what you need to do, learn about a stock just because I said it’s good, it may not be good for your risk tolerance. You know, somebody that’s just starting off in the market may not have the same risk tolerance of somebody that’s been in the market for 10 years.

And has the money to be able to say, if I lose this, I lose this. Some people don’t have that risk tolerance, but for some reason they follow somebody that is completely the opposite of them and they expect.

To not get hurt if something bad happened, like, for example, I like somebody coming out of school and has 10 grand only had worked his butt off to get that 10 grand. And he puts it in a specular stock that lets say, Jeremy, did you know, first of all, Jeremy, if you were to buy a speculative stock, you wouldn’t buy a big portion of his portfolio.

He’d buy an abortionist before that. He’s willing to lose. And he’s like, it’s chump change. Meanwhile, eggland coming out of school with the same exact amount. And so that’s exactly the opposite of what he’s doing. But it looks the same because I’m buying the same sophism.

But it’s not. That’s the thing. It’s like I should have put a small portion of that 10 grand which is nothing, but people don’t see it that way. And, and that’s what hopefully we can kind of get people to get to, you know, the importance of actually doing it yourself in the situation to your situation, to avoid a lot of mistakes.

A lot a lot of hurt, because when you make mistakes in the market, your money loses when you make mistakes. And like the schoolyard, you get you get yelled at by the teacher. You get yelled at by that.

OK, sure, you can bounce back from that when you lose your money. It’s like I got to get out now and never come back. And it’s like, oh, that’s literally the opposite of what the whole thing. And it’s cool to see that somebody, at least some people have their head on their shoulders.

Some people were trying to think logically and hopefully we can get more people that way because we don’t want people to get hurt. That’s the whole point of it. Yeah and yeah, like I mean, you know, I wanted to kind of that was a cool discussion for me. I don’t know if you have any other things that you wanted to kind of bring up on that.

So I think this is one question that I would really like to solve for what if I can just put it out there into the community? So there’s not many. Well, I think this is a good suggestion. Put it this way.

So there’s not many videos that come on top or people that cover the real estate versus stock market in a way that would be realistic. So I know many go that they put the figures together and they say if you have, let’s say, listen, 50,000 real estate would be better because of leverage is over.

OK, so there’s many that go that several studies, but it’s 50,000 used to it. Yeah so what I don’t a comparison myself, but I would like it to maybe I’m missing something where if you take one person that has so both of them have $200,000 or $2,000 and a monthly income of $2,000.

The one goes with the two and 1,000 down as a down payment. The other one goes into that 20,000 as in the stock market, and then take the 2000 run and invest that each month. Both of them, obviously the one is servicing the average and then the other one is just paying that into the stock market.

The one with the real estate has he has maybe some taxes to pay. He has other bills to pay property tax. I don’t know what, what all the fees are involved, but then deduct all of that. And every five years or so, he’s obviously going to do some renovation, maybe tidy up the place is going to have a tenant that’s not going to pay for two months.

He’s going to have no tenant for three months. And so kind of squeeze in those scenarios. And then go. It’s obviously there’s some details that you can either add or kind of pull the picture like you want to, because you can say this guy had no tenant for a year and then kind of do that over a 10 year span as.

Say, the one guy ended up with a property that’s completely paid off and the other one ended up with so much money in the stock market. And so much interest, so much dividends getting paid to kind of that comparison will kind of give the people an idea of if you have the or even giving them the math and say if you have 2050 $1,000.

Put it into this formula and you can see what money would be worth for x amount of months without rain, cater for renovations every five years. So that’s for renovations. You need to include and deduct from your money and then say this is the guy he set back on his couch watching this.

If you’re and he threw $2,000 into the stock market, that’s the comparison. And then kind of say for the amount of work that you putting in managing the tenant, doing the renovations, this is the extra money that you’re getting compared to the guy that’s sitting back each night.

I just end of the month chucking money into the stock market. And so many, many I think gramm or someone did a video on this is your 4% return on your property and 7% on your stock market. And obviously, real estate is better because of leverage, but no one takes into account the months without rent, that ovascience stuff that happens with property.

And I’m sure Jeremy knows things that go on with property and other issues. And I am certain he can say it’s not an easy thing to make, but obviously he’s getting the benefit from it. Yeah, no, like, that’s actually that’s a very good that’s a very good suggestion because.

I know Stephanie Graham does a couple of those, but it doesn’t mean a way where he compares to people’s salaries like a plumber. I think he didn’t want that too long ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. It was really cool to see.

The only problem is that some people. So there’s also another caveat that if you’re really good to stock market investing and you’re really good at picking stocks, hopefully you’re getting better than a 7% return on a yearly basis.

That’s the goal. Let’s say Jeremy himself. I think so. One thing I wanted to actually see is that he actually has a good segue on it. He of becoming market, of course. And a lot of people talk about.

So he does actually have that little segue, although he does not go too much into the real estate side. He he said he clearly admits that he’s not like a real estate expert by any chance, by any stretch of the imagination.

He makes that very clear. He doesn’t like to overstep his boundaries, but he does speak to how we can. I don’t want to give it too much because then it’s like he does talk about how if you’re looking at it from just a monetary standpoint, what are the strategy, why you would want to pick a stock market over the real estate and why you do the other way around?

Because, for example, you have people in the United States that in reality, if you’re looking at it from a very realistic standpoint, you want on any property, you want to put as little as possible. That’s the whole point.

That’s how you use leverage to your advantage. The problem is not every country has as an amount that can get them a home with little down. I think there is one in the United states, it’s called. AI forgot the name of it, but you’re able to put such a small amount down and then get a home, but the problem is it’ll kapua how much the home, Tony.

OK, so there’s so much little variables like that that can take away Jeremy’s point of view. Obviously, he most of his wealth is actually in the stock market. So he talks about because he’s able to continuously get better returns than the 7% on a continuous basis, whether it’s down or up the market.

He’s able to get that 15 plus hopefully 20. He tries to aim for something higher, which he actually talks about a lot. But so if you’re getting those returns, then you’re looking at the stock market a way better venue, because then you’re taking away the fact that.

You know, because if you think about it, you’re making those deals, the home payments and the home payments, usually the first 10 years of the home payment. They don’t really go to the principal. They’ll make sure that it goes to the interest first, the reverse mortgage.

They’ll make sure that the interest is paid off first before that, before you start building equity home. So there’s that as well that you have to kind of take into consideration. He does talk about it.

And if you’re able to get into properties at such little down payment, properties can be a very it could be a very lucrative type of investment. But the problem is that’s where it gets problem. But the problem is.

I know in the states they have I live I live in Canada. We have a first time home buyer type of credit where you can put very little money on your first property, on your first home, so it can be a rental property, can’t be a home.

It can’t be anything, has to be a home that you’re the first one. Exactly and it has to be you have to live in it for the year, for the first year at least. So you have to see it that way. So it’s like three properties for rental properties.

In a sense. That’s where it gets a little tricky, because if you’re leveraging yourself with 20% down on a $1.5 million property, that $200,000 and you have one basket and that’s it, you’re done. You have to make sure that everything is good.

No renovations are needed more than you budgeted at tenants pay, like you said. And it just gets like so if you can handle that, that’s what it is. And like you mentioned, a very good point. But I just my answer would be personally, this is from my point of view, is that there are so many little caveats and variables that it’s not that easy a calculation that even.

If Jeremy did the calculation, Kevin me did the calculation, it would be two different calculations just because Jeremy would be taking into consideration his assets and he’s getting like 30, 30 plus a year, let’s say, in the market where Kevin would be probably getting between, let’s say, on a very high end, 15%.

So that kind of already would sway the whole numbers completely in different directions. Yeah, but that is a very cool thing to actually that’s something really interesting. We had some maybe I should mention also to I know in the us, if you get an interest rates on, I don’t know, three, three or four percent, that’s seen as really high. Right Yeah. On on your mortgage.

Well, right now if you’re looking at it. So if we get a. So we get a low interest rate, it’s like 8% Otherwise maybe 11 percent, which you can rather take that into the stock market for us and get very similar returns instead of paying that high interest on a home.

And then also you’re guaranteed for the first year, maybe two years even to not get your full range of to cover your mortgage. So that’s kind of I’m putting my I’m putting a down payment down and then not getting income for the first two years plus flat to 24 months.

I need to sit with a tenant and manage it and hope that they stay for two years. And then after getting a couple of it’s literally a couple of dollars you get back and maybe after five years then it becomes profitable and worth managing the tenants.

So that’s why I’m looking at the stock market now, and that’s and that’s a very good point, because also even you can even compare that to the states. So you can also compare that to the states where even if interest rates are low in the states, you would say, OK, buying a property would be very smart because interest rates are only six or so for next three years.

Interest rates are lower. Then you also look at it the other way around, like if you’re very, very strategic in the stock market and you have been continuously doing your due diligence and research, you can definitely get as well a margin account for very low interest, like extremely low interest.

Yes, I’m not and I’m not saying go to mortgage. You can’t put like, but you can get an extra 20% of what your net worth is just from margin and then allow you to buy a little bit more on lower, cheaper, undervalued stocks.

So there’s that as well you can look into. But the problem is within the confines of what people use, maybe there is a calculation that can be done and but you’d have to kind of state the assumptions as in like, you know, look, I’m going to stay in the stock market only getting like 15% a year.

Meanwhile, you’ve seen a couple of stocks this year that Jeremy has picked alone, have doubled in the last four months. It’s now looking crazy. And at 13 is up like 300 and 400% almost. And it’s like those are caveats that you might not be able to put into the calculation. So that’s where like something comes up.

But that’s a very interesting point, because I know 8% is a low. That sounds like that’s like that sounds like hell over there, but I see where you’re coming from. That’s actually a very good point. And then I think I lost one.

So in the last 10 years, our currency against the dollar has weakened by about 100% So that’s also another thing that I’m taking into account. Even if the stock market stays at a 0% return, I’m going to I’m hoping to win against the currency exchange.

And already it’s a bit up since about way back. So I’m winning in that sense as well. But I have to have to says, well, it’s tricky for me to keep or to track my gains and losses with the stock market going up and the currency strengthening a bit.

And then I’m kind of still sitting at 0. And it is tricky. And I would say a bit more risky than what if the US dollar index just drops for five years then and it doesn’t have to be a lot. It can be, but a couple of percentage.

It makes a big impact on your currency because it’s not one specific stock that’s dropping. It’s all of your assets dropping. Yeah so that is one thing that maybe causes some sleepless nights, but I think just push can’t be that bad.

Yeah, well the only thing I would go back to with that is I would go back to one of Warren buffett, like I think his recent adventure, hathaways, which his recent kind of conference for Berkshire Hathaway, that when during the midst of the crash and everything, and he reiterated he’s like, never bet against America.

He would just keep on saying that over and over, never bet against America. And where it’s like there has been extreme. Extreme financial crisis, like events in the United States that have happened, if you look at the 2019 1929 to 1932 I believe if that was a massive wall that was.

And I feel like if that one handle social media appearance all around it, that probably would have been 10 times worse than it actually was, because it just the media wasn’t taking on front load everything.

You look at 2008, 2009, I mean, that one was pretty disgusting. One, because it was not a fundamental it was more of a like somebody rigging the market over and over, taking advantage of loopholes and eventually caught up to the whole market, obviously is spent all the way to Iceland.

Spinetta, all the way many countries around the world. And you look at this one, this one is just a sort of global event where everybody thought the world was just going to stop and never return. And that’s why you saw markets just plummet and they have the printer rolling where they just keep printing money. And so there’s that as well.

And it’s like, you know, you see all these crazy things that have happened. And, you know, I’m probably way too young to know all the other crazy. And I know the 1930 to 1920 1993 to 1 because I’ve kind of researched it a little bit.

But you’ve seen over these events where continuously. The American dollar gains back its strength and gains back its steadiness. The stock market gains its steadiness again and continues to grow because there’s so much innovation at all times.

And then and then even as it weakens a little bit, it always manages to come back. I remember I think after 2008, 2009 around in twenty, like I think it was something of that sort. I think I’m in Canada. I live in Canada. The American dollar was one to one with the Canadian dollar and Canadians were going absolutely insane.

You had people driving over the border and like the bridges were packed to the point where they were going to Syracuse ghoshal because it was literally like you can buy the same amount of money from over there. And people were just Hocking the bridges.

It was absolutely insane. Traffic was over on top of each other. It it was incredible. And then what happened? We end up being way worse than the American dollar. Eventually it comes back to America’s Got. The euro is the only one.

That’s probably because obviously it’s unionized with a bunch of countries. And and that’s probably one thing. But over time, what we’ve seen is the American dollar continue. We see the gold. Gold tried to be the pick, the kind of currency we’ve seen so many different others.

Other type of commodities and things of that sort, try to almost take over the dollar or take over the importance or whatever, and just they get a peak and then it just and eventually the American dollar regains its.

Now, the value of the money buying power for people has continuously dropped down unless you’re investing and you’re able to keep up with it. But the thing I’m seeing over time, if you’re looking at the market, you’re looking at the currency, is that it always finds a way to come back.

And I don’t know what it is. I don’t know if it’s they call it a conspiracy call or whatever the hell you want to call it. It’s just the way to come back. And it’s like, you know, history has a good way of repeating itself and it could be something different.

But again, you know the chances. But you mention a very good point. Even if you get like zero returns, just a currency exchange alone can give you a huge return on your money, because usually over time, every currency has gotten weaker. You look at the Middle East right now.

Yeah, that is the currency of the Middle East is just absolutely disgusting compared to the US dollar. Now, it’s and it has gotten worse and worse over the last seven years to a point where now they have inflation.

They’re not being able to buy normal food. And why? Because they’re so weak compared to the US. And there’s some reason as to why that’s happening. You know, who knows? And but, you know, it’s better to be on the I guess, on the US side from my point of view in that regard.

Yeah, it is. And it’s helping a lot. So that’s kind of why I’m using general technology to kind of dig into the US and kind of get to see what’s going on and not be just blasted by the news.

And because I think that those, like any news channel, always a bit twisted or the only focus on the stats. And they do surveys that only contains 1,000 people. And I’m saying this because I work for a media company that does exactly that.

So, yeah, these media companies have agendas like that’s what I think people need to understand. Media companies have agendas. They want clicks on their views. They want. So they’ll go after the story that’s going to get more attention rather than the one that’s going to get more life saved or money saved or something that’s good for you because it’s not going to get clicks.

But I’m going to go there. Yeah so I kind of work with development and the journalism side and I kind of know what the objective or their goals are where they keep your eyes. And I just to get the news article to be the number one, whether that’s on another, feed a service that pulls their story in.

They get a bonus, they get a raise. Whether that story is actually valid is a different story. And yeah, I mean, that’s I mean, that’s a good way of saying, look, it’s just it’s a business and everything is a business.

And if you look at everything being a business, that’s when you start realizing not everything is good for you, like it’s running a business, like the news companies are not doing this kind of voluntary work and just having fun.

Like, you know, you have bosses as well. They have news on top of them and they need money to continue the thing. So whatever makes them money, they’re going to do, whether it’s good or bad. So, you know, that’s what you got to look at.

That’s one thing I have. Everything is a business. And if you can look at it that way, OK, you can be a little bit more cautious and more skeptical of what you let in. So we’ve got a few minutes then I think we could wrap up. Yeah, of course

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